Question from me:
Hi Jack yes, this is not clear>>.
This is epically tricky for me when the feeling of guilt comes up.
As I was noticing my thoughts I would catch the emotion or feeling of quilt coming up.
So I said NO do not feel that. It is of the mind.
Yet another part of me thinks that this guilt can be used to take action. Example, I am not doing self forgiveness... I feel guilty so I do it ...I feel better.
Then there is another part of guilt that pertains to the past. Like something you already did and wish you did not do. That does not feel good, I use the STOP this is mind .
That past quilt can stops movement.
It is like this feeling of guilt is coming up all the time lately! Like my whole existence feels as it is of quilt. I feel guilty in every moment thinking I am responsible for every thought, like I am in a panic all the time and will not allow me to rest for fear I am not doing enough, or that I am even doing to much. Awww! gee..
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I would appreciate your perspective on this.
Thanks.
Answer:>>>
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| As I was noticing my thoughts I would catch the emotion or feeling of quilt coming up. So I said NO do not feel that. It is of the mind. |
Here I’d suggest considering your starting point – have a look at ‘defining thoughts as being wrong/bad’ and within this manifesting a fear towards thoughts. Then together with the fear of them – when you ‘miss a thought’ – you ‘feel guilty’, because at the same time you realise to assist and support you, it is for you to stand up and not accept and allow thoughts.
Now, because you’ve judged the thought before you’ve even stopped the thought because of fear towards the thought and you didn’t stop the thought to stand up for you within you = you experience guilt. Thus = a manifested geometrical mind-pattern circulation within which you exist. The origin being this sentence as your current starting point: I am supposed to stop this thought, because I know it’s not who I am, but I fear this thought and judge this thought before I even apply me and then feel guilty when I did not’.
Therefore – clear your starting point: I am assisting and supporting me by standing up within me through stopping my thoughts. Then self forgiveness on fearing thoughts/judging thoughts.
Adele – when you say: NO! or STOP! an it is not an absolute statement of you – with no reaction within it – then it is effective – when it is not so – it is not effective. Then here self forgiveness is necessary – to not ‘delude’ yourself into ‘thinking’ you are standing up – be certain within you.
In applying as suggested with regards to the starting point – your starting point must be you for you – herein the NO! and STOP! will become effective.
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| Yet another part of me thinks that this guilt can be used to take action. Example, I am not doing self forgiveness... I feel guilty so I do it ...I feel better. |
I’d suggest not – the ‘feeling better’ is the ‘feeling of satisfaction of the mind’ because you’ve herein suppressed the guilt further within you – perceiving it to have gone away – but you’ve actually compounded it which is also one of the reasons why guilt has come up so prominently within you – because you’ve given it attention.
See, within this application – you’re making guilt the starting point – instead of you directing you in the moment. Your starting point must be you: I am applying self forgiveness for me to assist and support me within and as my individual process of stopping the mind and realizing me. Within this – you are the starting point.
I’d also suggest to have a look at why you’re accepting/allowing you to ‘feel guilty’ in not applying self forgiveness, because guilt can only exist when you understand the necessity and importance for self forgiveness for you within and as your individual process – but allow the mind to intervene/interfere and then not do it – which is the actual reason why guilt would exist: That you know you’re allowing the mind to influence your process.
So – have a specific look at where and how you’re allowing the mind to influence you to not apply self forgiveness – then you push you to apply self forgiveness for you.
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| Then there is another part of guilt that pertains to the past. Like something you already did and wish you did not do. That does not feel good, I use the STOP this is mind . That past quilt can stops movement. |
With regards to the past – the STOP application is not effective – the STOP application is only effective in the moment here – with regards to the past – specific self forgiveness is required as the past constructs/event/moments are manifested within and as your human physical body and only effective self forgiveness and self application will release it within and as you.
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| It is like this feeling of guilt is coming up all the time lately! Like my whole existence feels as it is of quilt. I feel guilty in every moment thinking I am responsible for every thought, like I am in a panic all the time and will not allow me to rest for fear I am not doing enough, or that I am even doing to much. Awww! gee.. .... Well thanks Jack for asking that cause now that I am writing this I am feeling a rest, I see I have to do SF on guilt. Man, it is debilitating! I would appreciate your perspective on this. Thanks. |
Of course you are responsible for you and what you accept/allow within and as you – but this responsibility is the realization of and within and as you that you’re able to stand up and stop – no guilt necessary or required, it’s you realising your responsibility towards you – within this, you stop what has been accepted and allowed within you.
The reason why the guilt has come up so much is because within your application you’ve been ‘feeding it’ as I explained above – therefore, have to clear your starting point again to be you for you as you alone.
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